oldaker
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Post by oldaker on May 18, 2010 18:20:54 GMT -6
Last week one of my hens started sleeping ALOT. Saturday we found her dead in the coop. I immediately removed her, moved my other hens to a different coop, disinfected the original coop and hens. All seemed well. Today another hen that was not in the original coop started displaying the same symptoms: sleepy, eyes never fully opening, not wanting to move, and oddly this one refused to get out of the water dish. She would get back in if you took her out( this was the only moving about she did, once in the pan she was still again). I removed her. Disinfected everything again, same as before. She was disposed of far far away from the others. Does anyone have any clue what may be wrong? Anything I can try that I haven't thought of maybe? Some kind of antibiotic perhaps? Any input would be great. Thanks!
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verloncox
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Post by verloncox on May 18, 2010 19:59:45 GMT -6
Oldaker, is there any others symptoms besides them being tired. Is there an odor, runny nose, inability to walk right, leaking eyes, loss of appetite or leaking from their vent? I hate to medicate but it sounds like this would be a good time for some amporillum in their feed or a cc of norocillin in each of their thighs. There has to be some more symptoms. I would say that I would already have some Vet RX at the minimum in each one of those birds throats and faces.
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oldaker
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Post by oldaker on May 18, 2010 20:42:56 GMT -6
Umm no odor that is out of the ordinary. Some running of the nose. The one today had some moisture around her eyes. I'm new to all of this and I'm just at a loss. Where do you go for those things you mentioned? Thank you so much for your help so far and I do apologize for my ignorance.
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verloncox
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Post by verloncox on May 18, 2010 21:52:26 GMT -6
No odor is a VERY good sign for you oldaker. That rules out enteritis and coryza, had there been an odor from the nasal cavity with a runny BEAK that would be a symptom of coryza (VERY VERY BAD). Enteritis usually causes an odor from the vent with some leaking from the vent area. Amporillum is an antibiotic that you mix with feed (it comes in a small bag and looks like chick starter) make sure that you give them a healthy dose initially (more then what is called for) OR you can give it a few days and if you lose any more then do the alternative. I rarely medicate so someone else may give you better advice on here but when I do have to medicate I usually shoot a cc or a cc and a half of norocillin in the sick birds thigh. Both medications can be gotten at most feed stores or at Co-op. Make sure that you get plenty of syringes while you are there too because you dont want to use the same needle for a lot of birds. I rely heavily on norocillin because it works so well (like penicillin) but use it VERY rarely. First things first though. We know that its probably airborne (respiratory) since each bird was from a different pen. What's odd is that it should have infected an entire pen before jumping to the other pen. You really need to look around the pens where each of the hens were sick at and try to see if you can find some "unusual" poop. I think that I would dose each chickens feed with the amporillum anyways honestly, its unusual to lose two birds in so many days. If you need more help you can shoot me an email at et1verloncox@yahoo.com.
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oldaker
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Post by oldaker on May 18, 2010 22:30:59 GMT -6
Thanks! I think you have officially become my hero for the week!! I'll make sure I stop by the store first thing in the morning. Hopefully our little town stores have it. You rock!! Thank you sooo much!!
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Post by Timbo on May 18, 2010 23:02:47 GMT -6
great job verlon
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Post by verloncox on May 19, 2010 8:35:14 GMT -6
No problems at all oldaker, I just hope that its something that you can get rid of quickly before losing more. You might want to toss the eggs for a few weeks and definitely not "invite any of them to supper" for a while after dosing them. That's still better then the alternative though. Some people get a little freaked out by injecting them, if you decide to go that route and get a little squeamish just let us know and we will get you through it. Thanks Timbo. The coyotes still haven't come back and no more birds have been lost. Just remember where we live at this deer season if you want to take a few. We can dress him out over here. They should all be HUGE because they have eaten about half of the garden..............sigh.
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Post by oldaker on May 19, 2010 9:36:12 GMT -6
I'm all good with giving injections. As long as the needle is not coming towards my skin, all is well. I haven't been able to get any medicine yet. Had all intentions of getting it this morning but I had a horse colic. It's just not my week lol. Horse is fine though.
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Post by Timbo on May 19, 2010 16:45:18 GMT -6
Thanks Verlon. I'll give you a shout come deer season. Just let me know when the coyot's come back and I'll be there to help shut'em down. It's hard to keep the deer off the garden. You have a wonderful place there and hope your birds continue to flurish.
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Post by herb on May 19, 2010 18:46:00 GMT -6
Deer? Did somebody say VENISON?
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Post by verloncox on May 20, 2010 8:52:20 GMT -6
I haven't hunted in a long time but I may this year. Timbo, you are welcomed out here any time that you are in the area. Oldaker, have you lost any more hens or was it just those two?
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oldaker
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Post by oldaker on May 20, 2010 9:15:28 GMT -6
No lost hens yet verlon. Crossing my fingers! Herb, my thoughts exactly!! I can't wait for deer season to come back around. It's one of my favorite times of the year.
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Post by herb on May 20, 2010 14:05:36 GMT -6
Well KRAP! One of my most prized hens- just keeled over dead yesterday. It is miraculous that chickens survive at all. No obvious injury. No outward signs that anything was wrong. She had apparently just stopped eating. My autopsy didn't show any parasite or internal organ problems.
Dang it!
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oldaker
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Post by oldaker on May 20, 2010 20:42:29 GMT -6
Oh, see herb, my bad luck spreads. Sorry to hear about your hen.
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Post by 8bells on May 23, 2010 5:19:41 GMT -6
Perhaps this entire thread should be moved to "Sickness & Health". But in the mean time, one of the best web refs on poultry diseases is located here: www.poultry.msstate.edu/extension/pdf/diseases_poultry_common.pdfThere are dozens of AG schools that link to that page if you search them for poultry diseases. If you back-up one page(http://www.poultry.msstate.edu/extension/) and click on "poultry health", this is one of the links, as well as others diagnosing by symptoms, etc. It all pretty much boils down to this one link. If you save it AND each of the individual symptoms links, the entire thing will barely fit on one CD. Extremely useful info about poultry health. Hopefully, you will never need this info, but there it is.
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