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Post by Timbo on Nov 1, 2010 16:28:57 GMT -6
Cinnamon queen hen Attachments:
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Post by ellisfarms on Jul 6, 2011 23:37:03 GMT -6
what breeds make up the cinnamon queen?
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Post by Timbo on Jul 7, 2011 15:27:11 GMT -6
Via rightpet.com
Cinnamon Queen Chicken Also known as Golden Comet, Gold Star, and Red Sex Link.
Other name(s): Cinnamon Queen Sex Link
Scientific name: Gallus gallus domesticus Country / Place of origin: Not known
History: The Cinnamon Queen Chicken is a sex-linked cross breed brown egg laying chicken. It is a cross breed created from a Silver Laced Wyandotte Hen and a New Hampshire rooster. This breed has not been given recognition by the American Poultry Association. Current Uses: Eggs Appearance: Cinnamon Queen Chickens are color sexable as chicks. Cockerels are white and the pullets are brownish-red in color. Average weight: N/A Lifespan: 10 - 20 years Grooming: Diet: Chickens are omnivores and will eat anything they can catch and swallow. They will also eat small pebbles and gravel to aid in digestion. Their natural diet makes them relatively easy to feed a healthy diet as a pet. Free range chickens will find most of their food on their own, scratching up insects and snails and devouring sprouts and small plants. For chickens that are confined to smaller spaces do best on a commercial feed supplemented with fresh fruits and veggies. They will also happily eat any slugs and snails that you offer. You may want to offer ground oysters shells for added calcium if your hen is laying eggs. Otherwise grit is not needed with a commercial feed based diet. Fresh and clean water must be available at all times. Housing: Housing a pet chicken takes some preparation and planning. If you take into consideration ease of cleaning, ease of access, and chicken comfort then you will be housing some happy chickens that require simple day to day care. If at all possible the best environment would be a safe coop to sleep in at night and allowing your chicken free range during the day. When allowed free range, the coop only needs to have 5 square feet of floor space per chicken. It should provide protection from the rain, wind, sun, and predators but still have good air flow. The coop should be furnished with perches and nest boxes. Flooring can be wooden, concrete, or dirt. Wood floors are easy to build, predator proof, and easy to clean by hosing but will rot quickly. Concrete floors are easy to clean by hosing but more expensive and time consuming to build. Dirt floors need to have underground mesh wire to prevent predators from digging in and will need regular replacements of fresh clean dirt. The dirt is easy to clean with regular raking. They will appreciate straw for bedding; make sure to change it regularly. Straw should never get wet as it will grow molds and fungi that can make your birds sick. Their yard area can be well planted with bushes and trees for shade and lettuce, kale, and herbs for eating. Health issues: Although chickens are considered an easy pet they do require the expert care of an avian veterinarian and regular check ups. There are several diseases that they can receive vaccines for such as Newcastles, Avian Flu, Avian Pox, Infectious Laryngotracheitis, and Marek’s Disease. Your vet may also recommend regular worming. Your vet can also be a valuable resource on aspects of good care that will prevent the spread of disease within your flock.
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Post by ellisfarms on Jul 7, 2011 23:21:48 GMT -6
i was told some time ago that it was rir and buff . was told at meet that was wrong jest wanted to find out for sure i didn't know .
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Post by Timbo on Jul 8, 2011 0:25:31 GMT -6
Yes that was probably me that told you that. I'm sorry i was wrong. Thats what i thought it was.
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Post by cks4me on Jul 8, 2011 8:08:02 GMT -6
Tim when breeding chicks does it make any difference regarding breed of rooster and hen are? If so what and do you know why. Tks
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Post by Timbo on Jul 10, 2011 3:26:11 GMT -6
If your looking for certain characteristics you will need to breed them. If you are wanting to meet standards to the breed it is better to find the best characteristics to produce the desired breed.
What exactly are the results your wanting to see. We'll try to help you from there. Any of you other breeders feel free to jump in, correct me, and share your knowledge. I'm not really good with the Chicken DNA but have been studying and applying it own my own projects.
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Post by cks4me on Aug 8, 2011 12:09:56 GMT -6
Does any one know where I can get a "Bluebell"? They are so pretty and read they are good layers. Would love to get some. Please let me know if you have any or know where I can get some. Tks
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Post by gardendaddy on Aug 8, 2011 13:26:41 GMT -6
The Bluebell hen is an autosex hybrid developed by Meadowsweet, (hence sometimes called a Meadowsweet Bluebell) by crossing Maran & RIR. As a hybrid it cannot breed true and its eggs/chicks will revert to type according to the cockerel used to fertilise them. Bred from the Maran and Rhode Island Red breeds of chicken, Bluebells have attractive blue-grey feathering and produce approximately 240 brown-coloured eggs per year. They have the added advantage of being very good-natured birds.
If one is wanting a specific breed then of course you must start with like hen and rooster. If you are breeding crosses, mixed, etc. birds then anything will basically cross with anything, right Timbo? It is kind of like getting a mule...a female horse and a male donkey usually if I remember right...then the offspring is sterile and this happens sometimes with chickens as well. It happens in the horticultural world as well. A lot of hybrid vegetables MIGHT make a seed but they usually will not reproduce fruit...a lot of the hybrid tomatoes cannot be saved from seed in the 2nd generation as you will get a plant but no blooms and fruit (tomatoes) will not form. Does this sound right to you Timbo?
From reading and finding the above information, I see they (Bluebell's) are somewhat popular in the UK and run a bit pricey there. Does this help any?
Mike
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Post by cks4me on Aug 8, 2011 13:51:14 GMT -6
Yes the UK has a lot of birds we don't have and I am not interested in trying to import. So you are saying that even if I breed the maran and RIR I still would not get a bluebell?
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Post by gardendaddy on Aug 8, 2011 16:36:55 GMT -6
It seems from what I read that you would get SOME Bluebell's but they themselves would not have "BLUEBELL" chicks...They will not/cannot breed back Bluebell chicks. Whatever rooster you bred them back to would have the dominate gene and they would revert back to the roo's character, breed, etc. You might have to try both these methods: Marans hens to RIR roos AND RIR hens to Marans roos and see what your chances of getting the blue-grey coloring. But ANY offspring from the Bluebell would never be Bluebell chicks. You would have to keep breeding whatever combination worked in the first place to get that blue-grey gene over and over to replace the Bluebell flock if you wanted a lot of them. They would never reproduce like kind from like kind...That is what I understood from what I read. Tim and Herb and Gina are the gene/DNA experts...I am just putting what I have read on this one. But from what little science I can comprehend, this sounds about right, thus the mule analogy earlier. You can breed a donkey jack and a mare and get a mule but that mule cannot reproduce...the Bluebells's CAN have fertile eggs and produce chicks but they will NOT be Bluebell chicks but revert back to the rooster DNA plus the rooster that fertilized those chicks. I think that is right?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Hope that makes it clear as mud...it does for me...kidding of course. This is so complicated isn't it? Guess that is why I am just a grunt at Home Depot at my age!
Good luck with the breeding program if you decide on trying it. I would like to see your finished products. Gina has good Marans!
Mike
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Post by ellisfarms on Aug 8, 2011 23:17:20 GMT -6
i jest had some maran chicks hatch out to day that's where mien came from
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Post by cks4me on Aug 9, 2011 7:27:26 GMT -6
Ellis You have bluebells? So are you saying a maran hen and a RIR roo = bluebells for you?
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Post by ellisfarms on Aug 9, 2011 9:39:26 GMT -6
no i was jest saying that i have marans that came from gina birds will have some roos for sale if you needed one
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Post by cks4me on Aug 9, 2011 11:25:12 GMT -6
Oh thank you.
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